Jul 08, 2013
08:18 PM
It looks like Microsoft has “nearly” done a 180 here for Windows 8.1. In Windows 8.0 the default behavior was to pin all your shortcuts on the start screen, unless you specified in the msi package which specific shortcuts you did not want on the start screen. Now it looks like no shortcuts will be pinned to the start screen by any installation package. I don’t think the wording on the option is bad even though it’s kind of inverted on how feature is implemented in the msi package. Unfortunately you’ll have to keep a feature that applies only to one specific release of Windows kicking around for the next ten years. Hopefully Microsoft does not add an option in a future release to specify which shortcuts “will” be pinned to the start screen. Maybe by setting “PropVariantValue” to “3”. Have fun documenting that :rolleyes: @roman - I uploaded an msi package that installs two shortcuts. one is defined to pin the shortcut the other is not. look at msiShortcutProperty table.
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Jul 03, 2013
04:25 PM
quoting Antoine Leblond from: http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2013/05/30/continuing-the-windows-8-vision-with-windows-8-1.aspx "So when you install a new app from the Windows Store, we no longer put that app on your Start screen." When I install my non-Windows Store product from an msi package to a Windows 8.1 system, no shortcuts are installed on the start screen even though I have the "Pin to Windows 8 Start Screen" property set to yes. (does work as expected on Windows 😎 So does Microsoft intend no apps to have shortcuts installed to the Windows 8.1 start screen? BTW: I built my basic msi project with Install Shield 2013
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Oct 05, 2012
06:19 PM
I have the same problem...Ever come up with a solution?
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Mar 28, 2012
05:58 PM
The short answer is “Yes”, Install shield’s “XML File Change” facility can be used to add binding redirect information to configuration files. You’ll need to understand XPath structure and functions. Here are the resources I used: http://www.w3schools.com/xpath/default.asp http://zvon.org/xxl/XPathTutorial/General/examples.html http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath/ You will also need to know how “Xml File Change” works inside and out. Start with the IS documentation(search for xpath). However the only way you’ll truly understand how "XML File Change" works is to use the test feature (right click on XML file). Start simple and add more complexity. Make sure you test both install and uninstall. You may want to test well formed but incorrectly structured config files too.
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Mar 23, 2012
02:05 PM
In .NET you can use an XML formatted configuration file to make an assembly load a different version of dependent assembly by supplying a binding redirect element. This configuration file can apply to a specific application or machine wide with machine.config http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/twy1dw1e(v=vs.71).aspx The documentation states “Use one tag for each assembly.” I am having a hard time making Install Shield’s “XML File Change” feature create binding redirects for multiple assemblies. There is also a problem with adding a binding redirect to a config file that already has multiple binding redirects (It tends to want to modify all the existing dependentAssembly blocks!). Has anyone figured out how to deal with this problem yet? What did you do? Could you make the XML File Change feature work or did you use a different approach? This clearly is not a new problem: http://community.flexerasoftware.com/search.php?searchid=2019226
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Jun 16, 2011
02:51 PM
OK Microsoft has posted a KB on the issue: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2564571
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May 12, 2011
12:20 PM
After a long hiatus this issue has returned again. Microsoft acknowledges this is an issue on their side but since we cannot supply a trace where the memory pool gets corrupted they are only going to document it. So I ask again, has anyone else recently encountered this issue?
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Mar 03, 2011
05:33 PM
@IlkkaV – Does your install package have MsiLogging property set in the property table? When I remove this property from my installation project I do not break Programs and Features any more. What I know so far: The explorer memory pool is getting into a “bad state”. How it gets into this state I do not know and cannot reproduce it. Once explorer is in the bad memory state and I install my simple installation package with the MsiLogging property set I break Program and Features. If you were to open Program and Features this bad memory state is removed. Even when Programs and Features is broken the bad memory state is fixed. However Programs and Features will remain broken until explorer is restarted.
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Feb 28, 2011
11:04 AM
The Microsoft debug engineer has been working to find the root cause. So far it has been determined that a memory pool used by MSI was freed when it should not have been therefore MSI could not create the path for the temp location.
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Feb 17, 2011
12:18 PM
I am encountering an issue where sometimes Windows 7 64-bit “Programs and Features” will not modify any installations. When you click on a product then click remove you get an error window stating:” Error opening installation log file. Verify that the location specified log file exists and is writable” If you run msiexec directly or initiate maintenance mode from the setup.exe or msi file the uninstall will run normally. If you restart the explorer process or reboot the system you can modify applications through “Program and Features” again. This issue is highly intermittent, even a VMware image starting from the same snapshot run multiple times will sometimes get it but mostly won’t. (I know what you are thinning…it’s not just VMware, I have also had “real” systems in this state) The only bit of reproducibility I can get is when running the installation during Windows 7 software logo toolkit testing. I thought this had to be something “bad” we were doing in our installation, but I have now made a simple one feature, one component install with which I can still reproduce the problem. (Twice after three attempts) I have a case open with Microsoft, which is progressing reasonably well. So far it’s been determined that when explorer is in this state its trying to write the log to the system32 folder! (“Programs and Features” window is a thread from the explorer process) However I am curious has anyone else experienced the same problem? FYI - The installation packages have been built from a basic MSI project using Install Shield 2010
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Oct 21, 2009
07:05 PM
Microsoft has a hot fix available that fixes this issue, even though it does not specifically refer to the problem. Essentially the hot fix is back porting the MSI 5.0 guts to 4.5. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;972397&sd=rss&spid=3198 By the way this also finally fixes a much older issue with upgrading VC merge modules I had discussed here http://community.flexerasoftware.com/showthread.php?t=176078
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Sep 18, 2009
11:19 AM
Hi Kathy, Did you get any further with this issue? I came across your thread while searching the forums but decided to contribute to another thread in the 2010 section. http://community.acresso.com/showthread.php?t=189813 My experiences are the same: The 9.0.30729.4148 mergemodule breaks things and the 9.0 vc_redist.exe fixes it or avoids the problem completely if you use it from the start.
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Sep 17, 2009
06:57 PM
Running vc_redist.exe, (both 9.0.30729.1 and 9.0.30729.4148) does fix the problem. But Microsoft is still not off the hook on this one. Microsoft distributed some bad merge modules and they need to fix them ASAP. If one installation package unwittingly uses these bad merge modules, it will blow up VC90 dependencies for it and all other applications on the system. Case in point: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=340778 edit: This issue occurs on Vista and 2008 platforms. (I have not tested Win 7). A test I ran on 2003 did not have this issue. So its the uplevel components that are involved.
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Sep 17, 2009
04:16 PM
I too am having problems with VC90.MFC merge module version 9.0.30729.4148. Since using this package my installations work when installing for the first time but when I do a major upgrade an ocx file that I register fails because it cannot find the VC90.MFC library. The version it is looking for is 9.0.21022.8 which is defined in the manifest of the ocx file. Clearly it should be backwards compatible but something in the merge module breaks this functionality on a Major upgrade. If I edit the ocx library in Visual Studio and alter the MFC version in the manifest to 9.0.30729.4148 my ocx file can be registered on the system where it would fail before. I suspect something is jacked up in the merge modules that were released with that VC++ security update: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973924
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Jan 26, 2009
12:59 PM
Hmmmm… There is a fly in the ointment, or should I say # No bother, the board comes through once again: http://community.acresso.com/showthread.php?t=129811
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