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Hello,

 

I am currently working on a project and am pretty new with AdminStudio. In the past with the said application someone created 2 MSI's, one for an upgrade and one for a new install. Basically these two installers are two seperate vbscripts that run under custom actions during install. I really would like to combine these two to make things much easier.

 

Would there be a way to check to see if a folder exists and if so Run NewInstall custom action and if not run upgrade install? I understand this probably is not the way to do things and there probably much easier ways which I am learning slowly. But I need a quick fix with this:

 

Custom Action 1 = newinstall.vbs - Runs a new install then runs vb script and edits an xml file.

 

Custom Action 2 = Run Upgrade.. this just runs another script and edits the xml files currently on the system.

 

 

If I do not make any sense please give me a chance and I will try to explain more in detail.

 

Thanks

  • If I'm understanding you right, these custom actions are basically wrapping another installer, and handling maintenance configuration of an XML file.

     

    Assuming I'm understanding you correctly, you could easily enough handle this with a single MSI file. Basically, you would create a 'System Search' to find the folder (Installation Designer -> Behavior and Logic -> System Search), and then store the folder path in a property (i.e. FOLDERFOUND), then use the property in the following conditions:

     

    Action 1 condition (folder doesn't exist): NOT FOLDERFOUND

     

    Action 2 condition (folder exists): FOLDERFOUND
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  • " Cary R wrote:

     

    If I'm understanding you right, these custom actions are basically wrapping another installer, and handling maintenance configuration of an XML file.

     

    Assuming I'm understanding you correctly, you could easily enough handle this with a single MSI file. Basically, you would create a 'System Search' to find the folder (Installation Designer -> Behavior and Logic -> System Search), and then store the folder path in a property (i.e. FOLDERFOUND), then use the property in the following conditions:

     

    Action 1 condition (folder doesn't exist): NOT FOLDERFOUND

     

    Action 2 condition (folder exists): FOLDERFOUND "

     

    Yes basically the 2 vbscripts edit the configuration of an xml file. The first VBScript edits changes to an XML file upon an upgrade. The second script edits the file with new numbers and places those in the correct area of the xml files being edited.

     

    Now I had already created a System Search String before seeing this reply, so I am following you there. I am pretty sure you are understanding what I am trying to accomplish. And REALLY appreciate it. :D

     

    Questions:

     

    Do I need to create "FOLDERFOUND" in the property table?

     

    What I would like to do is:

     

    Action 1 condition (folder doesn't exist): NOT FOLDERFOUND

     

    If folder does not exist goto custom action NewInstall.vbs

     

    Action 2 condition (folder exists): FOLDERFOUND

     

    If folder(s) exist goto custom action upgrade.vbs

     

     

    Thanks again for any help! I really appreciate it.
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  • " nommos wrote:

     

    Yes basically the 2 vbscripts edit the configuration of an xml file. The first VBScript edits changes to an XML file upon an upgrade. The second script edits the file with new numbers and places those in the correct area of the xml files being edited.

     

    Now I had already created a System Search String before seeing this reply, so I am following you there. I am pretty sure you are understanding what I am trying to accomplish. And REALLY appreciate it. :D

     

    Questions:

     

    Do I need to create "FOLDERFOUND" in the property table?

     

    What I would like to do is:

     

    Action 1 condition (folder doesn't exist): NOT FOLDERFOUND

     

    If folder does not exist goto custom action NewInstall.vbs

     

    Action 2 condition (folder exists): FOLDERFOUND

     

    If folder(s) exist goto custom action upgrade.vbs

     

     

    Thanks again for any help! I really appreciate it. "

     

    You're on the right track, definitely. FOLDERFOUND shouldn't actually exist in the property table beforehand. It will get created by the System Search as long as that's the property you used when you went through the System Search Wizard.

     

    Other than that, you just have to create your custom actions, schedule them, and use the above conditions.
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  • This is where I am getting a little confused on conditions properties. When I do create a system search for lets say folder DDX. I go through the wizard:

     

    Choose the item you want to search from the list below:

     

    "Folder path, by searching in a specific folder

     

    Next

     

    Foldername:

     

    DDX

     

    A full path:

     

    ProgramFilesFolder

     

    Store the value in this property:

     

    This is where I am confused, I only recieve a drop down box from here that shows a few properties like : ARPRODUCTION, DWUSLINK, etc. Should this not create itself at this point?

     

    Also after I go back into custom Actions I run the wizard to get to the location for the sequence and that is After Upgrade:

     

    Install UI Condition - here is the location I need to add my condition(s) correct? When I bring down the properties drop down I do not see ARPRODUCTION. Would this be the correct location I need to add these conditions? Sorry for being a pest!
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  • Ahh, I see where you're getting confused here.

     

    So, at the end of the system search wizard, you'll get a list of properties that already exist in the Property table. You'll want to type your own unique property here at this point, so something like 'DDXFOUND' would work.

     

    Then, when you're creating conditions in the Condition Builder, only a few of the most commonly used properties are available. You'll just want to type in the name of your property that you used before.
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  • " Cary R wrote:

     

    Ahh, I see where you're getting confused here.

     

    So, at the end of the system search wizard, you'll get a list of properties that already exist in the Property table. You'll want to type your own unique property here at this point, so something like 'DDXFOUND' would work.

     

    Then, when you're creating conditions in the Condition Builder, only a few of the most commonly used properties are available. You'll just want to type in the name of your property that you used before. "

     

     

    I really can't believe I did not notice you were able to type your own unique property in that location. Anyways thanks, I really appreciate this help. So now that I have this created my folder search is now named DDXFOUND.

     

    Although I am having a bit of a problem once again.(Suprise). ;) I go into the custom actions wizard and I have the following set:

     

    Name Upgrade

     

    Next :

     

    Type: Run VBScript code

     

    Stored Directly in the custom action

     

    Next - Next

     

    Both checked - wait for the action to finish and ignore custom action return code.

     

    In-Script Execution set to Immediate Execution

     

    Execution Scheduling Always Execute

     

    Here is where I think my install fails:

     

    I have:

     

    Install UI Sequence

     

    After ExecutionAction

     

    Install UI Condition

     

    DDXFOUND

     

    In the condition builder I just have IDXFOUND.

     

    For the new install I have :

     

    Install UI Sequence:

     

    After Upgrade(.vbs)

     

    Install UI Condition:

     

    NOT DDXFOUND

     

    So I rebuild the MSI and then launch and it fails immediatley with the following in the log file:

     

    MSI (s) (4C:28) [16:55:07:496]: Note: 1: 1708

     

    MSI (s) (4C:28) [16:55:07:496]: Product: DDE 3.0 -- Installation operation failed.

     

    MSI (s) (4C:28) [16:55:07:496]: Cleaning up uninstalled install packages, if any exist

     

    MSI (s) (4C:28) [16:55:07:496]: MainEngineThread is returning 1603

     

    === Logging stopped: 7/24/2007 16:55:07 ===

     

    MSI (c) (A8:80) [16:55:07:512]: Decrementing counter to disable shutdown. If counter >= 0, shutdown will be denied. Counter after decrement: -1

     

    MSI (c) (A8:80) [16:55:07:512]: MainEngineThread is returning 1603

     

    === Verbose logging stopped: 7/24/2007 16:55:07 ===

     

    I know this is something in my conditions and the way I have my Custom Actions set. Would you know by looking at this what I have done wrong?
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  • Sure, these sorts of things usually can be tracked down by having a look at the full logfile.

     

    Usually, issues with condtions only manifest themselves as errors when something is running when it shouldn't be, though. I would say to upload the full logfile, as well as some notes on what action should be running, and what action shouldn't be running. We should be able to see who's who then.
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  • Ok I figured out why I was getting that error and I seemed to have some odd install condition that should not have been there. Now I run the installer and it installs everything but excludes the scripts pretty much ignores them. I will keep working on this and send a log file maybe tomorrow... I am a bit burned out on this... So much to learn... :rolleyes:

     

    Thanks again if you have any ideas while I wait to get the log file please feel free to post. ;)
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  • Not sure what I am doing wrong I am unable to get my custom actions to launch. I am looking under sequences and have the following set:

     

    Sequences > Installation >and under ExecuteAction is the location of my two vbscripts:

     

    Run_NewInstall

     

    Sequence Number 1267

     

    Conditions NOT IDXFOUND

     

    Under that I have Upgrade

     

    Sequence Number 1295

     

    Conditions IDXFOUND

     

    Any ideas? I would be happy to send you the log file if you would like to look it over if you have anytime.
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