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Mar 13, 2009
10:02 AM
Install AdminStudio Tuner Standalone?
Is there a way to install the tuner as a standalone package?
When I install the Tuner.msi on a computer I'll get the Adminintegration.dll error.
When I install the Tuner.msi on a computer I'll get the Adminintegration.dll error.
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Mar 13, 2009
11:20 AM
Unfortunately, Tuner cannot be installed standalone from the full AdminStudio product. I would suggest using it or InstallShield Editor from a machine with the full AdminStudio product to create any transforms that you want.
-Ajay
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Mar 22, 2009
06:30 PM
This frustrates me too.
When I create a response transform, I'd like to do it on a clean machine. Often the transform can be useless because of the software installed on my main machine.
It would be good if tuner worked like repackager.
When I create a response transform, I'd like to do it on a clean machine. Often the transform can be useless because of the software installed on my main machine.
It would be good if tuner worked like repackager.
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Mar 30, 2010
01:17 PM
Sorry to resurrect an older thread, but our company has just purchased AdminStudio Enterprise 9.5 and this is one of the growing list of things that I find frustrating.
Our "full install" AdminStudio machines aren't clean and might have prerequisities or a setup, e.g. 64 bit, that don't apply to ordinary standard clients.
I'd like to be able to run Tuner on a remote machine like you can with Repackager but this still doesn't look like its possible.
Our "full install" AdminStudio machines aren't clean and might have prerequisities or a setup, e.g. 64 bit, that don't apply to ordinary standard clients.
I'd like to be able to run Tuner on a remote machine like you can with Repackager but this still doesn't look like its possible.
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Mar 30, 2010
02:47 PM
Hi Craig,
You can only Repackager and Quality Monitor remotely.
I will suggest you to install AS client on a clean VM image. Then take a snapshot. So every time you can revert to this snapshot to create response transforms.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Alpesh
You can only Repackager and Quality Monitor remotely.
I will suggest you to install AS client on a clean VM image. Then take a snapshot. So every time you can revert to this snapshot to create response transforms.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Alpesh
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Jul 21, 2010
03:20 PM
I know this has been resurrected a couple of times, but this is about the single most frustrating thing in Admin Studio. I package for both 32 and 64 bit machines. If I install Admin Studio on a 32bit machine, I can't create 64bit Response Transforms, and vice versa if I install it on a 64bit machine. If Flexera has no plans to create a stand alone tuner, we should at least get some decent mechanism for creating transforms on either platform. It's just so flipping BASIC, I can't understand why the mechanism isn't there.
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Jul 22, 2010
05:38 AM
As previously stated, this is something I'd like to see and think is needed. We have the full AdminStudio client installed on our 64 bit Workstations and then use VMWare to Repackage applications on standard clients.
The use of the 64 bit workstation ocassionally gives us problems when Tuning Vendor MSI's for a 32 bit environment so we've had to create another VM image with a 32 bit OS and a full AdminStudio install on just to run Tuner.
As our company has the desktop licensing model we can get away with this, but for someone who needs to license each full install that's not very practical or cost effective.
The use of the 64 bit workstation ocassionally gives us problems when Tuning Vendor MSI's for a 32 bit environment so we've had to create another VM image with a 32 bit OS and a full AdminStudio install on just to run Tuner.
As our company has the desktop licensing model we can get away with this, but for someone who needs to license each full install that's not very practical or cost effective.
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Jul 23, 2010
07:50 AM
Agreed, Craig. This is the boat we're in. I am the sole repackager for about 250-300 applications enterprise wide, so the desktop licensing model doesn't really fit for us. You would think, as much as Flexera is pushing it's ability to handle 32 and 64 bit, and migration to Windows 7, that the lightbulb would have gone off for someone...
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Aug 11, 2010
03:29 AM
Sorry to resurrect an older thread
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Feb 17, 2011
04:39 AM
kyrefl wrote:
Sorry to resurrect an older thread
Dont be sorry. This is clearly needed
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Feb 25, 2011
11:00 AM
I have the same issue, we pack mostly for XP, but now the need to pack for windows 7 is growing, and i cant install the full suite in my VM windows 7 because i have only one license.
My Workaround was to install the Trial Version (21 days) and get the job done, but as others mentioned, the need is there, we need Tuner Remote , Same as Repackager works now
My Workaround was to install the Trial Version (21 days) and get the job done, but as others mentioned, the need is there, we need Tuner Remote , Same as Repackager works now
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Feb 25, 2011
05:07 PM
Again, this is still on my wish list. Don't have the same license constraints as some of the people on here as we are lucky enough to have a desktop licensing model, but on a technical level we need to be able to remotely "tune" MSI's, whether using InstallShield or Tuner.
It's just not practical doing from your main PC when many vendor MSI's use Launch Conditions, have Custom Actions to look for prerequisite software, different OS, etc. It's one of the reasons we haven't totally got rid of Wise 8 in our environment as that (InstallTailor) works remotely.
Cheers,
Craig
It's just not practical doing from your main PC when many vendor MSI's use Launch Conditions, have Custom Actions to look for prerequisite software, different OS, etc. It's one of the reasons we haven't totally got rid of Wise 8 in our environment as that (InstallTailor) works remotely.
Cheers,
Craig
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Mar 08, 2011
06:53 AM
I have been following this thread from the beginning, and would really love to hear from a Flexera rep why this is not being considered. Having the Repackager, Quality Monitor, and Tuner (for both x86 and x64) to run on a CLEAN remote machine WITHOUT having to map a drive to the packaging machine, is simple common sense.
I find it difficult to understand what possible reasoning there is for NOT including these options, as it goes against the very BEST PRACTICES that the company teaches in its training courses to install this stuff on your packaging VM (thus making it no longer a clean machine). For the price we all pay for this suite of tools, I find the lack of response from a moderator or dev to be insulting.
I find it difficult to understand what possible reasoning there is for NOT including these options, as it goes against the very BEST PRACTICES that the company teaches in its training courses to install this stuff on your packaging VM (thus making it no longer a clean machine). For the price we all pay for this suite of tools, I find the lack of response from a moderator or dev to be insulting.
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Jun 21, 2011
03:14 AM
Here is a workaround for users that have a Microsoft SCCM server running:
If you are using Microsoft SCCM, you can use the free AdminStudio Configuration Manager Edition. Most of the included tools are highly limited, but the InstallShield Tuner is fully functional and can create response transforms.
You can install the SCCM Edition of AdminStudio on as many systems as you want, but you need a separate license key for each installation. Luckily, you can easily register for as many keys as you like 🙂 You need to have a SCCM server running. AdminStudio checks this during installation. I'm not sure if this solution is compliant with Flexeras licensing policy, but at least it works. I also openend an incident with the issue, here's what Flexera support says (among other things):
If you are using Microsoft SCCM, you can use the free AdminStudio Configuration Manager Edition. Most of the included tools are highly limited, but the InstallShield Tuner is fully functional and can create response transforms.
You can install the SCCM Edition of AdminStudio on as many systems as you want, but you need a separate license key for each installation. Luckily, you can easily register for as many keys as you like 🙂 You need to have a SCCM server running. AdminStudio checks this during installation. I'm not sure if this solution is compliant with Flexeras licensing policy, but at least it works. I also openend an incident with the issue, here's what Flexera support says (among other things):
"We currently have an open enhancement request for future versions of AdminStudio under work Order IOA-000055675 (allow tuner to run remotely) and has been accepted by our engineering team. I have attached your incident to that workorder and will update you if the request gets incorporated in a future version."
